Copyright 2004 by M. Uli Kusterer Fri, 29 Nov -1901 11:06:32 GMT Comments on article blog-pc-keyboard-on-mac at blog-pc-keyboard-on-mac Comments witness_dot_of_dot_teachtext_at_gmx_dot_net (M. Uli Kusterer) witness_dot_of_dot_teachtext_at_gmx_dot_net (M. Uli Kusterer) en-us Comment 28 by Do I need one? What is the Control key on a windows Keyboard for mac??? I'm confused..
Comment 27 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
Hibi, see my blog posting on the Mac keyboard:
Comment 26 by Hibi Please let me know the apple + s key combination is equivalent to which keys in ANSI keyboard
Comment 25 by Ian Hill Soo i like to do alot of aplications in full screen but when they freeze im screwed and i know im not supposed to do it but i pull the plug :( i need to know the shortcut to force quit :D Thank You

Ian Hill
Comment 24 by Joe For me it worked by using alt+C instead of ctrl+C.
Comment 23 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
@vamputer Dashboard *contains* a calculator widget. Also, I can just type stuff into the Spotlight search field to have it calculated.
Comment 22 by vamputer whaa, u replaced calculator key with dashboard?? u dont compute?
Comment 21 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
I have no idea what kind of keyboard you would have. All keyboards I had so far have numbers across the top. Since Num Lock is only needed for the number block on the right, it should just work. Do you maybe have the wrong keyboard layout set? E.g. while a US keyboard has the numbers without Shift, French keyboards need Shift to display numbers.

Most keyboards are physically the same. The only difference is what is printed on the keys (and maybe the size of a few key caps). The computer can not distinguish them, and needs to be told what language keyboard you have. So if you had a US keyboard, but accidentally had the keyboard layout (i.e. the "keyboard language") set to French in "System Preferences" under "Language and Text", pressing a number key would give you the wrong character. Have you tried to find out what language your new keyboard is and how it differs from the old one, and made sure System Preferences matches that?
Comment 20 by Barbara Hageter My keyboard with my eMac was recently zapped by a storm and even though the computer seems fine, the keyboard is dead. I am currently using a QWERTY cheap keyboard borrowed from work which suits my purposes for the time right now except I cannot get the number lock key to work. My old keyboard did not have a number lock button but I never had any problem. My problem now is I cannot access my work site as it will not accept my password which contains numbers. I went through the steps as prompted to introduce the new keyboard but just cannot get this one function to work.
Comment 19 by masqueradebeauty I am not sure how old this conversation is about this keyboard, but it totally saved me from frustrations because I just hooked my Classic Keyboard 200 to my MacBook Pro and I always use the select short cut for typing and the information here totally saved me from headaches! Thanks!
Comment 18 by Kishore Sherchand Hi,
My MAC G5 is almost dead due to MAC keyboard is not functioning. I tried to connect my the other PC keyboard to the MAC still not. IOs there a way how can I activate MAC with PC Keyboard.
Comment 17 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
@DWebb Your friend was following outdated information. Back in the System 6 days, many apps didn't support forward delete, but these days every Mac application works as expected there. As to the other operations, I think they're all available (if I understand correctly), but some of them may be on different keys, or require different modifier keys etc. Maybe someone with more experience on Windows can go into more detail about this (it's been ages for me...).
Comment 16 by DWebb Please have patience with me for a real 'novice' question. I'm thinking of switching from pc to Mac Mini. I do a lot of writing, so I don't want to lose any of the functions that one gets with a pc keyboard - such as being able to delete forwards as well as backwards, block in paragraphs and pages using Control and so on. A friend told me that Macs don't do this. Will these keys and functions still work if I use my old keyboard with a Mac Mini?

Comment 15 by zee what do you know about amiga, snobbish macoid :P
Comment 14 by Nen I found the answer to my own question, The WINDOWS key on the Classic keyboard 200 from Logitech acts like the Command key. Now I can copy, paste and select all. Neat! I am eager to learn what else can I do with this plug and play keyboard that sells for $15 at Staples. ALT delete will delete forward and so on...

I bought an LG monitor for my G4 and that is why I needed this keyB.
Comment 13 by Nen I came here after plugging a Logitech ClassiC keyboard 200 - the cheapest - to my G4 notebook.

I wonder if I can make ALT behave like the Command Key, etc. I cannot copy, paste select all, the basic functions in a Mac.

Hope ypu can help!!!
Comment 12 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
When a keyboard doesn't have a dedicated eject key, the F12 key is used to eject disks on the Mac. Neat trick I learned recently: If you have two drives, Option-Eject will eject the second drive.
Comment 11 by Soumen Biswas What is the shortcut key for CD/DVD Eject and push in a USB keyboard in MAC (eMac) ?
MY MAC KEYBOARD IS DAMAGED. I am facing a trouble for CD/DVD eject/push

please help me.
Comment 10 by John Howell John Howell writes:
I did this the other way around. I have a PC with an MS wireless keyboard and mouse (actuially a laptop with three USB ports already on it an d docking station with a further 6) But I fell in love with a new iMac keyboard when I played with one on in a shop, so I just bought one second hand form someone who had just upgraded their mac but already had a keyboard and mouse they were happy with.
I'm using this with KDE Linux, so mapping up the media keys was a simple task of just adding secondary system shortcuts. Only some oddness - the clear key is num-lock, and no insert key, only fn where insert should be.

However I love having the 2 USB ports on the keyboard as I can just put my docked laptop right out of the way now and still plugin thumbdrives very easily.

Now I have everything I need to move into a mac mini. Maybe for a Christams present for myself. 8)
Comment 9 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
@Shai: Just thought of one more thing: On Mac, there are a 'command' (clover-leaf and Apple icon) and a control key. Command is used for most shortcuts, while ctrl is just used as a general modifier. So, keep that in mind when you try to trigger shortcuts. As Command is mapped to the 'Windows'-key on a PC keyboard, Ctrl-C won't copy like on Windows.
Comment 8 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
@Offsprung: Good point. I guess I should have said 'in general', or 'most aren't'. That said, I have many PC-using friends, and *none* of them owns a keyboard with a built-in hub. Also, I went through at least four different shops back then (I might even have tried a few over in Mannheim, but I'm not 100% certain, it's been a while), and none of them carried any hub-keyboards.

I'm not saying that there are no keyboards with integrated hubs for Windows and Linux machines. Rather, I was just trying to bring across that it's not like with the Mac, where every keyboard has the hub built-in, which is something Mac users buying PC keyboards to use with their Mac need to watch out for.
Comment 7 by Offsprung What kind of of statement is:
"A PC keyboard isn't a hub."
The keyboard YOU bought is not a hub! You can buy a pc (even M$) keyboard with usb hub, just buy the one that does.
Comment 6 by paper shredder I don't know if it's possible just to buy the keys and swap them out. Hopefully someone who does know will speak up.

Comment 5 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
Shai, Josh: Have you checked the correct type of keyboard (i.e. ANSI, ISO or JIS)? Now that I re-read your comments I suddenly realised that I had a few non-working keys when I accidentally picked ANSI instead of ISO. Maybe something similar happened to you? The setting is a little hidden in the keyboard prefpane, and IIRC IntelliType has a separate setting for that which you may have to change. Does that help you guys?
Comment 4 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
Shai: Well, if they don't work for you, that's tough. Seriously, that's much too vague. Even if I was a hardware guru (and I'm not), I wouldn't know where to start guessing. You can remap and override some keys in IntelliType as well as in the Mouse & Keyboard Prefpane, so check those to make sure you didn't swap anything the wrong way. Unless you pressed the wrong key, I really have no idea beyond that, though.
Comment 3 by Shai Hello

I've got a question. My manager just bought a Mac Mini & basically tossed it to me and said use this ... OK so, I hooked up our Dell Keyboard to this new Mac Mini and followed the configure "prompts" and everything "seemed" fine until I tried using shortcuts.

I'm used to using a PC keyboard with a Mac but for some reason none of the shortcuts work for me.

I'm a graphic designer ... not a tech geek, so I follow instructions really well but can't always 'geek' my way out of a situation.

Help please


Comment 2 by Uli Kusterer Uli Kusterer writes:
Nope, no nonworking keys, and tab worked right from the start. Unless you've misconfigured something in IntelliType (though I'm not sure you even can remap tab), I'd guess you may have an actual defect here. Though, if it worked before, you may also just have gotten dirt in the contacts or so...
Comment 1 by josh I just got the same keyboard, however the tab key does not work for me. Did you have the same problem?