Copyright 2004 by M. Uli Kusterer Tue, 30 Dec 1969 07:58:58 GMT Comments on article blog-fruit-vs-obst at Zathras.de http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm witness_dot_of_dot_teachtext_at_gmx_dot_net (M. Uli Kusterer) witness_dot_of_dot_teachtext_at_gmx_dot_net (M. Uli Kusterer) en-us http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment5 http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment5 Thankfully German corresponds with Spanish in this case. Frucht = fruto, Obst = fruta. And, tomatoes are not vegetables, thank you all. Therefore, both Frucht and Obst. Common sense. It goes something like this: all Obst are Frucht but not all Frucht are Obst :)
http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment4 http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment4 Uli Kusterer writes:
Leon,

you can certainly make that claim if you leave away the following sentences of the article on "Obst" on Wikipedia, and provide no sources. There it states they are are "Fruchtgemüse". It depends on whether you use the botanical, culinaric or gardening/trade definitions of the words.

Subtleties like that are even more reason to get a professional translator :-p
http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment3 http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment3 A related issue is related words which are homographs in one language but distinct in another. For instance, in Swedish the noun “copy” is “kopia”, but the verb is “kopiera”. Then antique version of Photoshop I use at work uses “kopiera” in all cases, so the Save as Copy command suggests names like “Foo kopiera.jpg”.

It also translates “Paeth”, one of the PNG row filters, as “Bana”, treating it as a typo for “Path”, when in fact it is a surname. Context is important, and may be obscure.
http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment2 http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment2 Leon writes:
actually tomatoes are Obst :)

"Von der botanischen Seite sind sie [Tomaten] nämlich klar als Obst definiert. Denn Obst ist botanisch die Keimzelle von Pflanzen und entwickelt sich immer aus der Blüte. Das gilt für Tomate, Gurke, Paprika, Kürbis und Zuchini. Gemüse dagegen entsteht aus anderen Pflanzenteilen."
http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment1 http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/blog-fruit-vs-obst.htm#comment1 Much more sensible in German. Thanks for this.